{"id":4138,"date":"2020-07-28T17:42:59","date_gmt":"2020-07-28T17:42:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/?p=4138"},"modified":"2020-08-12T18:59:06","modified_gmt":"2020-08-12T18:59:06","slug":"quakers-as-proto-progressives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/2020\/07\/28\/quakers-as-proto-progressives\/","title":{"rendered":"Quakers as proto-progressives"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Taken from <a href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2013\/08\/22\/why-arguing-with-progressives-and-feminists-is-so-frustrating\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a> and from <a href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2020\/08\/11\/the-qu%D0%B0k%D0%B5r-deformation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a><\/p>\n<p>One of the rules for Patriactionaries here is this: no refighting the Reformation. We are remarkably ecumenical when it comes to certain base principles, seeing\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2012\/01\/05\/guest-post-at-an-orthodox-jewish-wedding-by-electricangel\/\">Orthodox Jews<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2012\/06\/04\/sayyid-qutb-honorary-patriactionary\/\">Muslims\u00a0<\/a>as having quite a few correct ideas about patriarchy as necessary to the ordered function of society.<\/p>\n<p>So it is a forbidden fruit treat to read a takedown of another religion. Unreformed Catholic E. Michael Jones does just such a thing in attempting to explain the roots of anti-Catholic policies by the housing authority in Philadelphia in his book\u00a0<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/The-Slaughter-Cities-Renewal-Cleansing\/dp\/1587317753\">The Slaughter of Cities: Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing<\/a><\/em>. (We last heard from Jones when discussing what we called\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2013\/07\/10\/american-genocide\/\">the genocide of American Catholics<\/a>\u00a0in large urban cities in the USA in the 1950s and 1960s.) To set the scene: city planner and Quaker Ed Bacon has proposed a 10-lane road that would isolate Center City from Italian Catholic South Philly. Residents there challenge Bacon: it would be unsafe.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ingersoll persisted: \u201cHow could an old lady ever cross that street\u00a0before the light would change. It\u2019s not possible.\u201d Bacon insisted that it was, and when\u00a0pressed for his explanation of how it was possible, responded, \u201cBecause I have said it is.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is the sort of know-it-all, trust-me-I\u2019m-from-the-government-and-I-know-better attitude we have come to expect from the Cathedral. Where does it arise? Jones continues: (pp 177-178)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ed Bacon was having another Quaker moment. Maitin characterized Bacon as an<br \/>\narrogant mendacious man \u2026\u00a0What Maitin failed to see is that arrogance and mendacity are\u00a0not so much personal as ethnic characteristics which derived ultimately from the Quaker\u00a0religion, whose belief in the \u201cinner light\u201d confers personal infallibility on its members.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If you wanted to picture me reading this, one of whose heroes is great Catholic debater\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/cathen\/05293c.htm\">Edmund Campion<\/a>, imagine me as Flounder in Animal House saying \u201cOh, Boy,<span class=\"embed-youtube\"><iframe class=\"youtube-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/arZdeg_fL-I?version=3&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&amp;autohide=2&amp;showsearch=0&amp;showinfo=1&amp;iv_load_policy=1&amp;wmode=transparent\" width=\"645\" height=\"363\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/span>this is\u00a0great!\u201d Jones proceeds with his takedown of Quakerism.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Quakerism is a sect which has neither dogma nor doctrine, whose liturgy is nothing more\u00a0than long silences interrupted by personal testimony. Since they have no religious principles,\u00a0Quakers are raised in a profoundly anti-intellectual atmosphere and are, as a result,\u00a0not skilled at argumentation. \u201cAnyone who has lived among Proper Philadelphians for any\u00a0length of time,\u201d Digby Baltzell noted in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Puritan-Boston-Quaker-Philadelphia-Baltzell\/dp\/156000830X\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1377185232&amp;sr=1-1\">his book comparing Quaker Philadelphia and\u00a0Puritan Boston<\/a>, \u201cwould have observed their lack of the kind of seriousness and deep concern\u00a0exhibited by Proper Bostonians.\u201d\u00a0Baltzell quite rightly traces Philadelphia\u2019s lack of\u00a0seriousness and their \u00a0(sic) lack of intellectual accomplishment when compared to Boston to the\u00a0Quaker sect whose religious beliefs were incapable of sustaining serious intellectual discourse.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>OW. It\u2019s expected for Papists to target Prots on dogma, but when another Prot calls your doctrine unserious (especially the man who coined the acronym WASP), it\u2019s gotta hurt. But a lot of people believe silly things; is that so harmful? Jones continues:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>(T)he irrationality of those principles when it came to maintaining\u00a0the social order quickly earned the sect a reputation for mendacity and hypocrisy, one\u00a0that stretched all the way back to its founder. Ben Franklin tells the story of how William\u00a0Penn and his co-religionists while on their voyage to America were threatened by an\u00a0approaching ship which they feared was going to attack them. All of the Quakers but one\u00a0retreated below deck. The one remaining was given a weapon to help defend the ship.\u00a0When the attack proved to be a false alarm, the Quaker joined his co-religionists only to\u00a0find himself upbraided by Penn for taking up arms, something which struck the man as\u00a0hypocritical. \u201cI being thy servant, why did thee not order me to come down? But thee was\u00a0willing enough that I should stay and help to fight the ship when thee thought there was\u00a0danger.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What were the consequences of this mendacity and hypocrisy?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Since Quakers wanted to control the lands of Pennsylvania in spite of their pacifism,\u00a0they quickly became adept at war by proxy. \u2026\u00a0Franklin noted\u00a0with disdain that Quakers in the state assembly would not appropriate money for gunpowder\u00a0for the colony\u2019s defense, but they would appropriate money for the purchase of\u00a0\u201cbread, flour, wheat, or other grain,\u201d knowing full well that by \u201cother grain\u201d everyone\u00a0knew they meant gunpowder. Similarly, their religious principles would not allow them to\u00a0buy a cannon, but they would allow them to purchase a \u201cfire engine,\u201d their word for the\u00a0same thing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Hmmm. Sounds like our own crony-capitalist, rich\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Where-Right-Went-Wrong-Neoconservatives\/dp\/0312341164\">Neocons<\/a>, getting the USA to start wars that the children of the poor and middle class will get their limbs blown off fighting. But worse than physical war is the war of the mind.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Since their religious principles demanded this sort of logic chopping and equivocation,\u00a0the Quakers quickly became adept in what later generations would call \u201cspin control\u201d\u00a0and \u201cpublic relations,\u201d something which naturally lent itself to the practice of psychological\u00a0warfare as a substitute for the conventional warfare their religious principles condemned.\u00a0Since their religion prohibited the use of force in defense of community, the\u00a0Quakers had to resort to more sophisticated means to maintain social order, means that\u00a0were completely consistent with the methods of cultural warfare and social control which\u00a0got implemented in the mid-20th century. They early on became adept at the psychological\u00a0manipulation of peer pressure known as \u201cfriendly persuasion,\u201d something which would\u00a0later become \u201csensitivity training,\u201d when 17th-century Pietism got weaponized by Kurt\u00a0Lewin working for the Office of Naval Research. \u2026\u00a0The Quakers had no need to\u00a0get the idea from the psychological-warfare establishment, because the military got the\u00a0idea of psychological warfare from them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Catholic Church, grounded in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=3&amp;cad=rja&amp;ved=0CDUQFjAC&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCatholic_Church_and_science&amp;ei=6icWUun1C7Kx4AOymYGABA&amp;usg=AFQjCNH5hydOi5kQGPfsXHBzba4PXuwhxg\">the theology of Thomas Aquinas that helped give rise to science<\/a>, was unprepared to counter such a belief system that ignored rationality, and focused on feelings as the source of revelation. Patriactionaries, too, have felt the frustration of the slippery, multi-cult approach to life, where \u201ceverything is relative.\u201d To finish with what Jones writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Quakers took their model for discourse on\u00a0things like the Crosstown Expressway from their experience of liturgy at the Quaker meeting\u00a0house.\u00a0<strong>Discourse for Quakers like Ed Bacon meant giving personal testimony,\u00a0<\/strong>which\u00a0was to be accepted as one would accept this sort of thing at a Quaker meeting.<strong>\u00a0Any attempt\u00a0to reason with this testimony was perceived at community meetings as it would be if it\u00a0occurred at their religious services, which is to say, as an act of impiety, and quite rightly\u00a0(at least from the Quaker point of view) shouted down with angry denial<\/strong>. (emphasis added)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If you want to understand why \u201cfeelings\u201d are so prominent with feminists and other Cultural Marxists, you\u2019ll find the Quaker approach to life prominent. Recall that Quakers,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/biblehub.com\/1_timothy\/2-12.htm\">violating the Bible<\/a>, were one of the first groups to allow women as preachers, and\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.samueljohnson.com\/dogwalk.html\">Samuel Johnson\u2019s comment<\/a>\u00a0on that:\u00a0<i>\u201cSir, a woman\u2019s preaching is like a dog walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.\u201d\u00a0<\/i>The list of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Mothers-Feminism-Story-Quaker-America\/dp\/0962091294\">Quaker feminists<\/a>\u00a0is long; here are two: Lucretia Mott organized the Seneca Falls convention, which we covered\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2013\/04\/05\/the-date-feminism-triumphed\/\">here<\/a>.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Susan_B._Anthony\">Susan B. Anthony<\/a>\u00a0fought for\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2012\/07\/20\/humour-interlude-offend-a-suffragette-edition-2\/\">women\u2019s suffrage<\/a>\u00a0(and we\u2019ve been suffering since.)<\/p>\n<p>Irrationality, annoyance at challenge, emphasis on feelings and inner light in Progressive\/feminist argumentation styles: it\u2019s a feature, not a bug.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<div class=\"post post-23711 type-post status-publish format-standard hentry category-america category-brave-new-world-order category-religion category-the-decline category-the-kulturkampf category-you-cant-make-this-shit-up\">\n<h2 class=\"post-title\">The Qu\u0430k\u0435r Deformation<\/h2>\n<div class=\"date\">\n<div class=\"bg\"><span class=\"day\">11<\/span>AUG<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"entry\">\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-0\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" 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href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/cutethullu\/status\/1292052946075750400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">August 8, 2020<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-4\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-4&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1292059975808954368&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1292059975808954368\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-5\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-5&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1292027301710839809&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1292027301710839809\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-6\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-6&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1292029014127722497&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1292029014127722497\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-7\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-7&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1292367268374970368&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1292367268374970368\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>I have many issues with the Puritans, despite my being Reformed, but I\u2019ve never liked the reductionist arguments that lay all the ills of modernity at their feet.<\/p>\n<p>I think it\u2019s great that people are examining other groups whose mindsets and influence doubtless have also played a large contributing role.<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-8\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-8&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1293222732310577154&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1293222732310577154\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Ugh. Tony Campolo, pushing the Pozz within evangelicalism\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-9\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-9&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1293230893297831936&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1293230893297831936\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-10\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-10&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1293231197020205056&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1293231197020205056\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-11\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-11&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1293283970646528000&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1293283970646528000\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\ud83d\ude02<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-12\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-12&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1293257793768742912&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1293257793768742912\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Out of their own mouths\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-13\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-13&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1292125316907823104&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1292125316907823104\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered\"><iframe id=\"twitter-widget-14\" class=\"\" title=\"Twitter Tweet\" src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/embed\/index.html?dnt=true&amp;embedId=twitter-widget-14&amp;frame=false&amp;hideCard=false&amp;hideThread=false&amp;id=1292120818256928769&amp;lang=en&amp;origin=https%3A%2F%2Fpatriactionary.wordpress.com%2F2020%2F08%2F11%2Fthe-qu%25d0%25b0k%25d0%25b5r-deformation%2F&amp;siteScreenName=wordpressdotcom&amp;theme=light&amp;widgetsVersion=223fc1c4%3A1596143124634&amp;width=550px\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-tweet-id=\"1292120818256928769\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\ud83d\ude02<\/p>\n<p>P.S. Two U.S. presidents were raised Quaker: Herbert Hoover, and Richard Nixon. Make of that what you will\u2026\u00a0\ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<p>P.P.S.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2013\/08\/22\/why-arguing-with-progressives-and-feminists-is-so-frustrating\/\">Related<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"jp-post-flair\" class=\"sharedaddy sd-sharing-enabled\">\n<div class=\"sharedaddy sd-sharing-enabled\">\n<div class=\"robots-nocontent sd-block sd-social sd-social-icon-text sd-sharing\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"post-navigation clear-fix\"><\/div>\n<div id=\"comments\">\n<h3 id=\"comments-title\">6 responses to \u201c<em>The Qu\u0430k\u0435r Deformation<\/em>\u201d<\/h3>\n<ol class=\"commentlist\">\n<li class=\"comment byuser comment-author-wgstewart bypostauthor even thread-even depth-1 comment highlander-comment\">\n<div id=\"comment-65618\" class=\"comment-body\">\n<p class=\"author\"><a class=\"url\" href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/\" rel=\"external nofollow ugc\">Will S.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"comment-meta\">August 11, 2020 at 5:41 pm<\/p>\n<div class=\"comment-content\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2013\/08\/22\/why-arguing-with-progressives-and-feminists-is-so-frustrating\/\" rel=\"nofollow ugc\">https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2013\/08\/22\/why-arguing-with-progressives-and-feminists-is-so-frustrating\/<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"alignleft\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"reply\"><a class=\"comment-reply-link\" href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2020\/08\/11\/the-qu%d0%b0k%d0%b5r-deformation\/?replytocom=65618#respond\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-commentid=\"65618\" data-postid=\"23711\" data-belowelement=\"comment-65618\" data-respondelement=\"respond\" data-replyto=\"Reply to Will S.\" aria-label=\"Reply to Will S.\">Reply<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"cl\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment byuser comment-author-silentmick1 odd alt thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 comment highlander-comment\">\n<div id=\"comment-65643\" class=\"comment-body\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"grav-93be1a3ee83d20aa000eb2e8e3d09889-0\" class=\"avatar avatar-70 grav-hashed grav-hijack\" src=\"https:\/\/0.gravatar.com\/avatar\/93be1a3ee83d20aa000eb2e8e3d09889?s=105&amp;d=identicon&amp;r=PG\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"70\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"author\">silentmick1<\/p>\n<p class=\"comment-meta\">August 11, 2020 at 8:36 pm<\/p>\n<div class=\"comment-content\">\n<p>Ignorance is bliss? No, it is dead solid certainty about one\u2019s knowledge of people, places and subjects about which one has no first-hand experience but which one did read about once in a novel or maybe saw the movie.<\/p>\n<p>Stupidity is the refusal to learn. In this day and age when whole libraries are available free or nearly free of charge online to anyone with a computer and a link there is no excuse for it. Never has so much knowledge been available to so many and never have so many shown themselves to be ignorant, arrogant and altogether foolish.<\/p>\n<div class=\"alignleft\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"reply\"><a class=\"comment-reply-link\" href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2020\/08\/11\/the-qu%d0%b0k%d0%b5r-deformation\/?replytocom=65643#respond\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-commentid=\"65643\" data-postid=\"23711\" data-belowelement=\"comment-65643\" data-respondelement=\"respond\" data-replyto=\"Reply to silentmick1\" aria-label=\"Reply to silentmick1\">Reply<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"cl\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment byuser comment-author-wgstewart bypostauthor even depth-2 comment highlander-comment\">\n<div id=\"comment-65646\" class=\"comment-body\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"grav-08c6a8c88209046eebe23bdd7e32f525-1\" class=\"avatar avatar-70 grav-hashed grav-hijack\" src=\"https:\/\/0.gravatar.com\/avatar\/08c6a8c88209046eebe23bdd7e32f525?s=105&amp;d=identicon&amp;r=PG\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"70\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"author\"><a class=\"url\" href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/\" rel=\"external nofollow ugc\">Will S.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"comment-meta\">August 11, 2020 at 10:13 pm<\/p>\n<div class=\"comment-content\">\n<p>Indeed.<\/p>\n<div class=\"alignleft\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"reply\"><a class=\"comment-reply-link\" href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2020\/08\/11\/the-qu%d0%b0k%d0%b5r-deformation\/?replytocom=65646#respond\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-commentid=\"65646\" data-postid=\"23711\" data-belowelement=\"comment-65646\" data-respondelement=\"respond\" data-replyto=\"Reply to Will S.\" aria-label=\"Reply to Will S.\">Reply<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"cl\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"pingback odd alt thread-even depth-1 comment highlander-comment\">\n<div id=\"comment-65644\" class=\"comment-body\">Pingback:\u00a0<a class=\"url\" href=\"http:\/\/neorxn.com\/2020\/08\/11\/the-qu%d0%b0k%d0%b5r-deformation\/\" rel=\"external nofollow ugc\">The Qu\u0430k\u0435r Deformation | Reaction Times<\/a><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"comment byuser comment-author-electricangel1978 even thread-odd thread-alt depth-1 comment highlander-comment\">\n<div id=\"comment-65693\" class=\"comment-body\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"grav-23d3256e6c7a84ff5af2514a09692a2d-0\" class=\"avatar avatar-70 grav-hashed grav-hijack\" src=\"https:\/\/2.gravatar.com\/avatar\/23d3256e6c7a84ff5af2514a09692a2d?s=105&amp;d=identicon&amp;r=PG\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"70\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"author\">electricangel<\/p>\n<p class=\"comment-meta\">August 12, 2020 at 9:03 am<\/p>\n<div class=\"comment-content\">\n<p>the Slaughter of Cities is a book that tells how the Quaker mentality armed Republican Progressives in the 50s to destroy white Catholic neighborhoods to hold on to power. He\u2019s got quite a few indictments of Quakers in there.<\/p>\n<div class=\"alignleft\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"reply\"><a class=\"comment-reply-link\" href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/2020\/08\/11\/the-qu%d0%b0k%d0%b5r-deformation\/?replytocom=65693#respond\" rel=\"nofollow\" data-commentid=\"65693\" data-postid=\"23711\" data-belowelement=\"comment-65693\" data-respondelement=\"respond\" data-replyto=\"Reply to electricangel\" aria-label=\"Reply to electricangel\">Reply<\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"cl\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<ul class=\"children\">\n<li class=\"comment byuser comment-author-wgstewart bypostauthor odd alt depth-2 comment highlander-comment\">\n<div id=\"comment-65694\" class=\"comment-body\">\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"grav-08c6a8c88209046eebe23bdd7e32f525-2\" class=\"avatar avatar-70 grav-hashed grav-hijack\" src=\"https:\/\/0.gravatar.com\/avatar\/08c6a8c88209046eebe23bdd7e32f525?s=105&amp;d=identicon&amp;r=PG\" alt=\"\" width=\"70\" height=\"70\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"author\"><a class=\"url\" href=\"https:\/\/patriactionary.wordpress.com\/\" rel=\"external nofollow ugc\">Will S.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"comment-meta\">August 12, 2020 at 9:13 am<\/p>\n<div class=\"comment-content\">\n<p>Yes, I linked your excellent post on it, after I posted this, as an update.\u00a0\ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Taken from here and from here One of the rules for Patriactionaries here is this: no refighting the Reformation. We are remarkably ecumenical when it comes to certain base principles, seeing\u00a0Orthodox Jews\u00a0and\u00a0Muslims\u00a0as having quite a few correct ideas about patriarchy as necessary to the ordered function of society. So it is a forbidden fruit treat &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/2020\/07\/28\/quakers-as-proto-progressives\/\" class=\"more-link\">Sigue leyendo <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Quakers as proto-progressives<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4138","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-sin-categoria"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4138","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4138"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4138\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4221,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4138\/revisions\/4221"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4138"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4138"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.thetruthcounts.com\/blogtraducciones\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4138"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}